Femme Fatale (REVISED)

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Femme Fatale (REVISED)

Postby Oskar » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:00 am

REVISION

She’s over there
where the fat man and the small guy sit.
Shady lady in the nylon seams
with a bottle and the jaded look.
A dime store avatar for all that’s in disguise
and in your dreams.
The widow in the cocktail dress
trails her fur along the floor
smells of flowers but she’s a carnivore.
That’s her, and she goes by the name of Perfidia.

Listen, Jack
There’s no such thing as a free pink pussycat in your bed.
She’ll strip you clean, dance you round
and when she’s done
stamp her dainty footprint on your head.
Don’t stay to drink the coffee
just get out of there and run.
This is Shakey Town
and baby’s got a gun.


..................

ORIGINAL

She’s over there
where the fat man and small guy sit.
Shady lady in the nylon seams
with a bottle and the look
that’s a just little bit jaded.
A dime store avatar for all that’s out of bounds
and in your dreams.
The widow in the cocktail dress
who trails her fur along the floor
smells of flowers but she’s a carnivore.
That’s her
and she goes by the name of Perfidia.

Listen, Jack
there’s no such thing as a free pink pussycat
in your bed.
She’ll strip you clean, dance you round
and when she’s done
rearrange your head with smoke filled lies.
Just get out of there and run.
This is Shakey Town
and baby’s got a gun.
Last edited by Oskar on Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby Nash » Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:26 am

We haven't been getting many from you lately Oskar and I must confess that it makes me feel strangely happy when I see that you've posted one.....especially one with a title like this. You do these film noir homages very well, verse noir perhaps?

It's very cinematic of course, the title and the first two lines set the scene instantly. The fat man and the small guy - I'm seeing Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre?

Small typo in L5? Should it be 'just a little' instead of 'a just little'?

This bit is just brilliant:

Oskar wrote:The widow in the cocktail dress
who trails her fur along the floor
smells of flowers but she’s a carnivore.


Naming her 'Perfidia' is inspired, not only do I have a picture of her looking like Julie London but we've also got a soundtrack in the bar!

Now to the negatives. I'm not too keen on those very short lines (That's her/in your bed), they seem to disrupt the rhythm I think. 'Listen Jack' works well as the start of S2.

I don't understand 'Shakey Town', a reference that's going over my head no doubt.

Cheers Oskar, very enjoyable,
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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby Pleiades » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:20 am

Like a film scene. Nicely written. Perhaps a tad conventional as a narrative?

with a bottle and the look
that’s a just little bit jaded.

This could be

with a bottle and the jaded look

As its not much more interesting if the jaded ness is qualified.

Enjoyed.

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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby brianedwards » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:22 am

Ahh, you rarely fail to please Oskar and this another gem. Conventional yes, but when it sounds this good who cares? Real treat to read aloud, especially in a fake hard-boiled twang. I agree with Richards suggested edit.

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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby twoleftfeet » Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:57 am

Oskar,

As Brian says, it needs to be read aloud in a fake accent.
Personally, I prefer the OTT style of the guy who used to do the "Quinn Martin Productions" voiceovers - they always reminded you at the end too, as if you might possibly have thought it was someone else! :)

My only nit is that "out of bounds" sounds too British.

A pleasure to read

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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby Oskar » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:22 pm

Nash wrote:We haven't been getting many from you lately Oskar and I must confess that it makes me feel strangely happy when I see that you've posted one.....

Not as happy as it makes me feel, Nash! I want to be here much more often posting respectable poetry but I just seem write headless chickens these days. It’s frustrating and bloody depressing.

Nash wrote:The fat man and the small guy - I'm seeing Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre?

Yes sir.

Nash wrote:Small typo in L5? Should it be 'just a little' instead of 'a just little'?

Careless, Oskar. I will amend.

Nash wrote:not only do I have a picture of her looking like Julie London but we've also got a soundtrack in the bar!

I rolled that song around in my head while I scribbled down most of the lines. It kept me going.

Nash wrote:I'm not too keen on those very short lines (That's her/in your bed), they seem to disrupt the rhythm I think.

That’s her – I think is justified. It highlights the rhyme and the pause that is there in the reading of those last two lines of S1.
in your bed – not so easy to justify! Hmmm, I’ll kick it around.

Shakey Town = Los Angeles

I really appreciate your close reading, Nash. Many thanks.

Pleiades wrote:Perhaps a tad conventional as a narrative?

Yes, that's what bothers me too. The poem doesn’t offer any surprises. I tried looking for them, but couldn’t find any. I’ll keep looking though.

Pleiades wrote:with a bottle and the look
that’s a just little bit jaded.

This could be

with a bottle and the jaded look

I like seeing the look there in the poem because Lauren Bacall was once credited with having something called The Look. I will, however, seriously consider your suggestion. Another perceptive reading. Thank you.

It’s always nice to know that you’re out there and interested in what I post, Brian. Your comment tips me towards making that edit. It does iron out the line quite nicely. Cheers.

It’s fake American accents all-round then, Geoff! I’ll just put on the Julie London and think Bogart and Bacall, just to optimise reading conditions.

Is out of bounds a phrase that wouldn’t be used across the pond? Hmmm, I’ll have an alternative on standby. Thanks for your help.

THE LOOK

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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby Suzanne » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:42 am

Hi Oskar,

I just watched The Big Sleep last week. LB, she's a beauty. And pretty confident for a 22 year old.

Yes, we say "out of bounds" use it just as you did in the poem which I enjoyed.

And, like Nash, I love seeing your name on the board after a poem.
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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby ray miller » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:57 pm

Here's lookin' at you, kid. Enjoyed it a lot. Should be "the fat man and the small guy", don't you think? Stereotypes. I guess "off limits" is a bit more American than out of bounds.
These are the best lines, I think.

The widow in the cocktail dress
who trails her fur along the floor
smells of flowers but she’s a carnivore.

Do you need "in your bed"? Too explicit, I'd have thought. Nice ending.
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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby twoleftfeet » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:25 pm

ray miller wrote:I guess "off limits" is a bit more American than out of bounds.


+1.
"Out of bounds" makes me think of misbehaving kids, bunking off, tuck-shops et al.
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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby Antcliff » Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:56 pm

Late to this Oskar,
but enjoyed it greatly.

Yes I think "Out of bounds" is indeed not quite a Shakey Town expression..unless David Niven is at the party.

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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby David » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:40 pm

Very good. And of course "out of bounds" should be "out of your league". No?

Interestingly, I've never heard of Shakey Town before. Where does that come from?

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Re: Femme Fatale

Postby Oskar » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:26 pm

Thanks, Suzanne. To Have and Have Not is also worth watching. It was Lauren Bacall's first film. Seen that one?

the small guy is IN. Cheers, Ray. I'll keep the bed ref. but you're probably right.

Antcliff wrote:Yes I think "Out of bounds" is indeed not quite a Shakey Town expression..unless David Niven is at the party.


twoleftfeet wrote:"Out of bounds" makes me think of misbehaving kids, bunking off, tuck-shops et al.

Wise guys, huh!

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David wrote:"out of bounds" should be "out of your league". No?

I think I'll avoid the issue and explore another, more fruitful(?), option.

SEE REVISIO

Cheers all.

btw - thanks for cleaning up the line re - jaded look, Richard.
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Re: Femme Fatale (REVISED)

Postby Antcliff » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:48 pm

Ed G as Little Caesar? Okay I'm turning dirty rat and saying..it was George wot done it. He deserves to be gunned down near the tuckshop, not me.

Like the edit.
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Re: Femme Fatale (REVISED)

Postby Oskar » Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:57 pm

NOT lifted from Chandler or Hammett -

Shakey Town - Little Feat

First time that I saw her
down at the predator's ball
She was lookin' a little bit lost
Like this was her very first cattle call
She was a quick understudy
She learned to use her appeal
'Cause now all you hear is the squeal of the wheels
Of her super-nice over-priced automobile, yeah
She's makin my heart beat
Jumpin' at every turn
A hundred miles an hour, yeah
Like she's got money to burn
Whoa, she's an overnight sensation
Oh yeah, she knows her way around
Won't waste time on conversation
Gonna take ya right down
Down to Shakeytown
Ya' know she took me honky-tonkin'
Out on the Westside Drive
Whe was star at the monkey bar
And I was social suicide
And now she's off in a corner
With a Hollywood wheel
Lookin' to hook a development deal for
Fifty grand, honey, and all she can steal
She got the hang of the fast life
She gets thte parts that don't speak
She introduce me to jack-knife
That's her agent this week
Whoa, she's an overnight sensation
Oh yeah, she knows her way around
Won't waste time on conversation
Gonna take ya right down
Down to Shakeytown
She will take you down
Take you all the way down
Down to Shakeytown
Got a Czech director, yeah
And her Italian camera man
Ya know they try to protect her
But she's doin' the best that she can
Whoa, she's an overnight sensation
Oh yeah, she knows her way around
Won't waste time on conversation
Gonna take ya right down
Down to Shakeytown
She will take you down
Take you all the way down
Down to Shakeytown
She will take you down
Take you all the way down
Down to Shakeytown
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Re: Femme Fatale (REVISED)

Postby Macavity » Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:30 pm

rearrange your head with smoke filled lies.


That's nastier, more internal,and connects to the era. I like the addition of the coffee - lacing the brain with caffeine.

Option:

There’s no such thing as a free pink pussycat
in your bed. She’ll strip you clean,
dance you round and when she’s done


Alternatively cut the 'in your bed' as suggested (the censor would have cut it!)

Another suggestion:

Don’t stay to drink the coffee
just get out of there and drive.


Perhaps a 1938 Plymouth P6 Deluxe Business Coupe :
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=1938+P ... 0QX2raGGDw

I think you've got the voice perfect.

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Re: Femme Fatale (REVISED)

Postby David » Wed May 02, 2012 5:39 pm

Yes, I think that's better too. And it was already pretty good.
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Re: Femme Fatale (REVISED)

Postby Oskar » Mon May 07, 2012 4:49 pm

Thank you for the careful read, mac.

I was reluctant to sacrifice the smoke filled lies line, for the reason you have given, but I think S2 works better overall without it. For the greater good, and all that.

Dropping in your bed down to the line below works well for me. Appreciated.

Classy looking automobile btw! I like it.

Cheers, David. Glad you think it's been taken up a notch.
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Re: Femme Fatale (REVISED)

Postby Antcliff » Mon May 07, 2012 5:05 pm

Did like this Oskar...very noir...I can hear the saxaphone playing.

in disguise
and in your dreams.


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Re: Femme Fatale (REVISED)

Postby Macavity » Tue May 08, 2012 5:35 pm

According to these people its the motor Bogart drove in the Big Sleep:

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthre ... Sleep-quot

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