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dic (v4)

Post by NotQuiteSure » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:38 pm

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v4 (the 'little bit longer' version)
RIP
Look Upon My Earthworks*, Ye Many, and Despair
or
dic


Came the day after the night before
there was raised such a great hue and cry
as over the land a mighty flood poured,
people a wailing, flung open their doors
and scoured the Union desperate to find
the ditch in which Johnson had died.

But empty were Grey Ditch, Rowe Ditch, Short
Ditch, Combs Ditch (Dorset), Brent Ditch, Bran.
Deserted were Launditch, the Welsh Lower Short
Ditch, in no ditch were signs of that man.

Yet who would fain doubt him, him
or his word? A statesman of stature,
'twas surely absurd. And so with alacrity,
by belief spurred, they began in the morning
light. Solemn and sombre, they searched, low
and low: four countries combed, dolorous
hollow, a teary-eyed fellowship hoping to spy
the ditch in which Johnson had died.

But empty were Bank Slack, Battery and Beachley,
Becca's, and Bolster, Bury's and Crugyn. Deserted
were Double, the Coombe Bank (at Reading),
in each bank were signs of him lacking.

Some, with long memories, urged them
to caution, remembering how he'd committed
to print, that very same notion, 'he'd in a ditch
to preserve the prawn cocktail crisp'. But no!
sayeth Gammon, set your doubt aside. For this
was for Brexit, and so woe betide Remoaners
who think that we will not find
the ditch in which Johnson has died.


But empty were Deil's Dyke, Offa's and the South
Dyke, Hoedic, Ruedic, Clawdd Mawr (Dyfed).
Deserted were Fron Hill, Wansdyke, Vervil, Na Doirse,
Foulding and Fleam. In no dyke were signs of him seen.

***

Like pilgrims they are, in search of a shrine,
marching to where ere a martyr might lie,
each wanting to witness the true sacrifice, see
the body made beautiful, pure, incorruptible,
laurelled and lying there, there in a ditch -
the ditch in which Johnson had died.




* a by no means exhaustive list (pace E. Grigg)
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v3 (The Short Version)

dic

Came the day after the night before
there was raised such a great hue and cry
as over the land a mighty flood poured,
people a wailing, flung open their doors
and scoured the Union desperate to find
the ditch in which Johnson had died.

For who would fain doubt him, a man
of his word? A statesman of stature,
'twas surely absurd and so with alacrity,
by belief spurred, they began in the morning
light. Solemn and sombre, they searched, low
and low: four countries combed, inconsolable,
hollow, a teary-eyed fellowship hoping to spy
the ditch in which Johnson had died.

Some, with long memories, urged them
to caution, remembering how he'd committed
to print, that very same notion, to die in a ditch
and preserve the prawn cocktail crisp. But no!
sayeth Gammon, cast all doubt aside. For this
was for Brexit, and so woe betide Remoaners
who think that we will not find
the ditch in which Johnson has died.

Like pilgrims they are, in search of a shrine,
marching to where ere a martyr might lie,
wanting to witness the true sacrifice, see
the body made beautiful, pure, incorruptible,
laurelled and lying there, there in a ditch -
the ditch in which Johnson had died.



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.....................RIP
Look Upon My Earthworks, Ye Many, and Despair
......................or
.....................dic


Came the day after the night before
there was raised such a great hue and cry
as over the land a mighty flood poured,
people awailing, flung open their doors
and scoured the Union desperate to find
the ditch in which Johnson had died.


But empty were Grey Ditch, the Great Ditch,
the Short Ditch, Rowe Ditch and Combs ditches,
Brent Ditch and Bran. Deserted were Launditch,
the Welsh Lower Short Ditch, Aves and Hug's
and the ditch at Bicham. Vacant was Aelfrith's,
Nico's, the Devil's, in no Black or Grim's ditch
was sign of their man.

Yet who would fain doubt him, him
or his word? A statesman of stature,
twas surely absurd and so with alacrity,
by belief spurred, they began in the morning
light. Solemn and sombre, they searched, low
and low: four countries combed, inconsolable,
hollow, a teary-eyed fellowship wanting to spy
the ditch in which Johnson had died.


Frantic they ransacked all the old banks,
Becca's and Bury's, Bolster's and Beachley's.
Coombe bank and Bank Slack, Double and Battery's
Bunns' and the Grim's Bank, over in Padworth,
but signs of Johnson? Sadly a dearth.

Those with long memories urged them
to caution, remembering how he'd committed
to print, that very same notion, to die in a ditch
and preserve the prawn cocktail crisp. But no!
sayeth Gammon, cast all doubt aside. For this
was for Brexit, and so woe betide Remoaners
who think that we will not find
the ditch in which Johnson has died.


They searched Inkpen and Reach Dyke, The Old
Dyke of Wansdyke, Gilling Wood, Giant's Grave,
Dorsey, Military Way, Heron Bridge and The Rein,
Catrail, Park Pale, Dodman, Shepherd’s Well,
Wallace's Trench, Bardon Mill, Stepper Point,
Giant's Hedge, Pear Wood and Pepper Hills Firs -

but no sign of Johnson was observed.

They searched Abernaint, Broomhead, Car, Heriot’s,
Calver, Clawdd Mawr Foel, They searched Fron Hill.
Rudgate and Bar, Tor and Bica's, Fullinga, Festaen
and Vervil. They searched Horning and Hayling Wood,
Minchinhampton Bulwarks, Panworth, Dane's Cast,
Ponter's Ball, Devil's Mouth, Pen y Clawdd, Roman Rig,
Red Hill, King's Wicket, Surry-Kent Dyke and King Lud's
Entrenchment -

but all sign of Johnson was absent.

They searched Bedwyn and Wantyn, Foulding
and High, the East Tisted-Colemore, Bokerley
Dyke. St Edmund’s, Whitford, Mount Pleasant,
Clawdd Mawr and Clawdd Seri. They searched
Offa's and Upper Short, Aberchan, the Oxford Road,
Wonston, Cefn-y-Crug, Froxfield, for all the good
it did them -

as no sign of Johnson was revealed.

The searched Two Trumps, Senghenydd,
Bedd Eiddil, Ty Newydd, the Clawdd Llesg dyke
and Cefn Morfydd, they searched Fleam -

but, of Johnson, no sign was to be seen.

They searched the Common at Crookham,
and the Mechain Cantref, Grim's Dyke (in Harrow)
and Radnor Forest, Wat's Dyke, Deil’s Dyke,
Dane and the South dykes, The Black Pig's,
Kerry dykes, Tisted Cross Valley dyke.
Cefn Eglwysilan and Tywn Hywel. Tor Clawdd,
Ffos Toncenglau, Bwlch Garw, Tyla-Glas, Cowlod,
Clawddtrawscae, Bwlch yr Afan and Bwlch y Cibau -

but they descried no signs of their man.

Like pilgrims they are, in search of a shrine,
still looking wherever a martyr might lie,
still hoping to witness the true sacrifice,
see the body made beautiful, pure, incorruptible,
laurelled and lying there, there in a ditch -
the ditch in which Johnson had died.




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RIP dic


Came the day after the night before
there was raised such a great hue and cry
as over the land a mighty flood poured,
people awailing, flung open their doors
and scoured the whole Union desperate to find
the ditch in which Johnson had died.


In a panic they ransacked all the old banks,
Becca's and Bury's, Bolster's and Beachley's.
Coombe bank and Bank Slack, Double and Battery's
Bunns' and the Grim's Bank, over in Padworth
but each one was empty - of Johnson, a dearth.

Yet who would fain doubt him, a man
of his word? A statesman of stature,
twas surely absurd and so with alacrity,
by belief spurred, they began in the morning
light. Solemn and sombre, they searched, low
and low: four countries combed, careful and slow,
an eager-eyed fellowship hoping to spy
the ditch in which Johnson had died.


But empty were Grey Ditch, the Great Ditch, the Short
Ditch, Rowe Ditch and Combs ditches, Brent Ditch
and Bran. Vacant was Aelfrith's, Nico's, the Devil's:
in no Black or Grim's ditch did they find their man.
Deserted too Launditch, the Welsh Lower Short Ditch,
Aves and Hug's, and the ditch at Bicham.

Though those with long memories urged them
to caution, remembering how he'd committed
to print, that very same notion, to die in a ditch
and preserve the prawn cocktail crisp. But no!
sayeth Gammon, cast all doubt aside. For this
is for Brexit, and so woe betide Remoaners
who think that we will not find
the ditch in which Johnson has died
.


Yet some grew to wondering if they'd misheard,
if the word used was dyke and not ditch.
And diffidently did a few then observe
that a dyke works as well in a pinch.
So the dykes did they search, at Abernaint,
and Broomhead, Car, Heriot’s, Calver,
Fron Hill. Rudgate and Bar, Tor and Bica's,
Fullinga and Festaen, Vervil.

They searched Inkpen and Reach Dyke,
The Old Dyke of Wansdyke, Gilling Wood,
Giant's Grave, Dorsey, Military Way,
Heron Bridge and The Rein, Catrail, Park Pale,
Dodman, Shepherd’s Well, Wallace's Trench,
Bardon Mill, Stepper Point, Giant's Hedge,
Pear Wood and Pepper Hills Firs.
But of Johnson no sign was observed.

They searched Horning and Hayling Wood,
Minchinhampton Bulwarks, Panworth,
Dane's Cast, Ponter's Ball, Devil's Mouth,
Pen y Clawdd, Roman Rig, Red Hill, King's Wicket,
Surry-Kent, Fleam, King Lud's Entrenchment.
But all sign of Johnson was absent.

They searched Bedwyn and Wantyn, Foulding
and High, the East Tisted-Colemore, Bokerley
Dyke. St Edmund’s, Whitford, Mount Pleasant,
Clawdd Mawr and Clawdd Seri. They searched
Offa's and Upper Short, Aberchan, the Oxford Road,
Wonston, Cefn-y-Crug, Froxfield, for all the good
it did them. As no sign of Johnson was revealed.

They searched the Common at Crookham,
and the Mechain Cantref, Grim's Dyke (in Harrow)
and Radnor Forest, Wat's Dyke, Deil’s Dyke,
Dane and the South dykes, The Black Pig's,
Kerry dykes, Tisted Cross Valley dyke.
Cefn Eglwysilan and Tywn Hywel, Cowlod,
Ffos Toncenglau, Tor Clawdd. Bwlch y Cibau,
Ty Newydd, Bedd Eiddil and Cefn Morfydd,
Bwlch yr Afan and Clawddtrawscae, Tyla-Glas,
but at the end of the day, alas, they found no sign.

Like pilgrims they are, in search of a shrine,
looking wherever a martyr might lie, wishing
to witness the true sacrifice, see the body
made beautiful, pure, incorruptible, laurelled,
and lying there, there in a ditch -
the ditch in which Johnson had died




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Thanks to Erik Grigg.


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Re: Gets a bit lost in the Welsh

Post by Macavity » Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:15 am

Who could resist such a title Not? :) You certainly seemed to have enjoyed your geography research! Of course, the mendacity and duplicity of the son of Trump has no moral restraint. He will win the election because the focus will be Brexit.

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Re: Gets a bit lost in the Welsh

Post by NotQuiteSure » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:21 pm

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Hi mac,
thanks for the read.
Macavity wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:15 am
You certainly seemed to have enjoyed your geography research!
Not exactly. I committed to the idea before I knew just how many of these sorts of earthworks there were. :)

Less about the 'son of Trump' than about those who aren't bothered about being lied to. That baffles me.

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Re: Gets a bit lost in the Welsh

Post by bjondon » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:35 pm

Hi Not,
glad to see someone else stepping up to throttle the jelly.
A Tory PM and a Remain re-vote . . . that would be a laugh.
I think the swivel to 'dyke' needs a better story.
The queen of geo-lists is of course Germander Speedwell.
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Re: Gets a bit lost in the Welsh

Post by NotQuiteSure » Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:18 pm

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Hi Jules,
'throttling the jelly' - a euphemism for what exactly? :)

It's not so much intended as a swivel, but a rationalisation
- one that is supposed to follow on from 'banks'.
Would this help?

Then some grew to wondering if they'd misheard,
that the earthwork was dyke and not ditch.
And diffidently did a few then observe
that a dyke works as well in a pinch.
So the dykes did they search, at Abernaint,
...

(Alternatively, could just cut the first three lines and begin with

Then the dykes did they search, at Abernaint,
... ?)


Would it be worth it/better to switch s2 and s4? As in

Came the day after the night before
there was raised such a great hue and cry
as over the land a mighty flood poured,
people awailing, flung open their doors
and scoured the whole Union desperate to find
the ditch in which Johnson had died.


But empty were Grey Ditch, the Great Ditch, the Short
Ditch, Rowe Ditch and Combs ditches, Brent Ditch
and Bran. Vacant was Aelfrith's, Nico's, the Devil's:
in no Black or Grim's ditch did they find their man.
Deserted too Launditch, the Welsh Lower Short Ditch,
Aves and Hug's, and the ditch at Bicham.

Yet who would fain doubt him, him
or his word? A statesman of stature,
twas surely absurd and so with alacrity,
by belief spurred, they began in the morning
light. Solemn and sombre, they searched, low
and low: four countries combed, disconsolate,
hollow, a teary-eyed fellowship hoping to spy
the ditch in which Johnson had died.


Frantic they ransacked all the old banks,
Becca's and Bury's, Bolster's and Beachley's.
Coombe bank and Bank Slack, Double and Battery's
Bunns' and the Grim's Bank, over in Padworth
but each one was empty - of Johnson, a dearth.

Though those with long memories urged them
...



Regards, Not.


PS. How about this for a title?
Look Upon My Earthworks, Ye Many, and Despair




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Re: Gets a bit lost in the Welsh

Post by bjondon » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:22 pm

Yes, both those changes would help.
Do you need all four 'They searched' stanzas?
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Re: Gets a bit lost in the Welsh

Post by NotQuiteSure » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:14 am

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Hi Jules,
thanks for the feedback.

I don't 'need' any of the stanzas that aren't in bold, but
it seems pointless to start a list and then not complete it. :)

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Re: dic

Post by NotQuiteSure » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:03 pm

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- Cut the list of earthworks
(there's a version where they form the shape of a ditch, with v3 in the middle, but can't post it here)

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Re: dic

Post by ray miller » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:48 pm

Enjoyed very much. I don't get "dic" or the prawn cocktail crisp reference.
I'm out of faith and in my cups
I contemplate such bitter stuff.

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Re: dic

Post by bjondon » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:24 pm

Liking the V3, but would throw the old S2 Grey Ditch
stanza back in - it has a brilliant cadence and was my
favourite bit - I think it would fit between S3 & 4
Possible title "The Ditch in Which"
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Re: dic

Post by NotQuiteSure » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:00 pm

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Hi ray,
thanks for the read. Glad you enjoyed it.

'dic' - pleasingly homonymic old English for ditch/dyke.


Johnson in his book (2002) wrote: "we will die in the last ditch to preserve the prawn cocktail flavour crisp”.
(Having 'discovered' the threat the EU posed to such comestibles, and seen it widely discredited, he didn't
hesitate to revive the 'claim' in time for the Referendum).

Regards, Not

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Hi Jules,

thanks for returning. I like that stanza too but doesn't it's inclusion leave the whole thing unbalanced.

How about V4?

(The title/s are intentional)

Regards, Not.




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Re: dic (v4)

Post by Macavity » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:49 am

Like V4 Not. Enough, but not too much ditch. The centring felt appropriate too! I don't think you need the dangling But empty are ...

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Re: dic (v4)

Post by NotQuiteSure » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:45 pm

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Hi mac,
thanks for returning. 'too much ditch'? As if that were possible :)
Glad the centring worked, bit spur of the moment, but it does look right.
Yes, I'll snip that 'dangler', wasn't sure, so thanks for the feedback.

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Re: dic (v4)

Post by lotus » Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:17 pm

i tend to think more about “Boris the Turk” than 'son of trump'


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https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/boris-johnsons-ottoman-family-ties-spark-hope-in-ancestral-village


Mr Johnson's great-great-grandfather, Ahmet Hamdi Haci, left Kalfat in the 19th century for Istanbul, where he became a businessman, according to a book by the prime minister's father, Stanley, titled Stanley, I Resume.

He sent one son, Ali Kemal, to study abroad and a year later his British wife died in England right after giving birth to another, Mr Andrew Gimson wrote in a biography titled Boris.

Like Mr Johnson a journalist-turned-politician, Kemal served as the interior minister under Turkey's last sultan in the early 20th century. His fatal mistake was advocating turning Turkey into a British colony in the waning days of the Ottoman empire, when the modern republic's founder, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, was fighting to defeat invading troops of Britain, France, Italy and Greece.

In November 1922, Kemal was kidnapped by nationalists in Istanbul and taken by boat to the nearby town of Izmit, where he was killed and then hanged from a tree.

Mr Johnson has challenged the narrative of Kemal as traitor, his father wrote in his book.

"Is it not possible that Ali Kemal just had the best interests of Turkey at heart? Maybe he thought, look, this guy - Mustafa Kemal - is trouble. All he wants to is take on the French and the Brits, he's going to cause us no end of bother," Mr Stanley Johnson cited his son as saying.
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Re: dic (v4)

Post by Firebird » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:40 pm

Yes, V4 is my favourite, too. It reads very well. I like the focus being where the ditch is, rather than why he said he’d die in a ditch. For me the ditch is a metaphor for how easily we can get fixated on the unimportant part of a story. I wouldn’t ditch any of the V4. Sorry I couldn’t resist to pun.

I like the poem. It has an apathy about truth, which rings true.

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Re: dic (v4)

Post by NotQuiteSure » Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:13 pm

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Hi Tristan,
thanks for the read.
'apathy about truth' - exactly! :)

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