The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

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The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by David » Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:33 pm

(Some acquaintance with the Molesworth Down With Skool! books may be necessary. Sorry about that.)

Hullo clouds,
hullo sky.
Everywhere I
turn my eye,
I see God -
serene, complete -
embodied in
the things I greet.

Yes, he is utterly wet,
as one who emerges soaked with dew
from the driest pasture.
You may think his complexion
like that of a sissy,
but he will forgive
such uncouth words,
and will not leave off
his colloquy with the birds.


This is no
theodicy.
God is not
on trial by me.
His subtle state -
all wise, all good -
is constituted
in my blood.

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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by brianedwards » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:24 pm

Loved it David, but then I have spent many hours in the classrooms and corridors of St Custard's.

Wasn't sure about sissy as a description of complexion, but perhaps that comes directly from the books? Sissy obviously does.

A keeper.

B.

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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by cynwulf » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:40 am

Very enjoyable, David.
Agree with B about sissy complexion-perhaps Weltanschauung would fit-and seems to me to go with the forgiving of uncouthness,.... probably not.
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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by ray miller » Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:02 am

I've no acquaintance with the books and, I think you're right, it may be necessary. I like the last section, as I can recognise a definite type there. This is good too

Yes, he is utterly wet,
as one who emerges soaked with dew
from the driest pasture.

But the rest of that section I don't care for. The words/birds rhyme sticks out in its singularity.
I'm out of faith and in my cups
I contemplate such bitter stuff.

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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by JJWilliamson » Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:36 pm

Very good, David.

I'm not familiar with Molesworth stories, but I'm not sure it matters.
I am nitless.

Much enjoyed

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Long time a child and still a child

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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by Arian » Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:43 pm

Like JJ, I'm a Molesworthy Innocent, but I liked it nonetheless. I think more for its impressive and subtle use of rhyme to drive the rhythm as much as anything.

Skilfully done.
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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by David » Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:16 pm

Thanks, all.

Brian, I wouldn't have reckoned you for an old ... Custardite? Custardian? Custodian? (Quis custodiet ipsos Custardes?) Just goes to show what I ought to remember, which is that I shouldn't make such lazy assumptions. Perhaps, like me, you're an old comprehensive school pupil who was oddly entranced by the books.
brianedwards wrote:Wasn't sure about sissy as a description of complexion
I know. It's the least tortured way I could think of to get the outrageous pun on "a sissy" in there. The pun? Say it out loud, and think about the birds.

Ray, you must be an old comprehensive school pupil who never came across the books. They are very funny, and those of us who read them at a tender age can still get geekily excited about them. As you can see.

C, JJ, Peter, thank you too!

By the way - grotesquely pretentious aside no. 493 coming up - the reason I want a pun on "a sissy" is that I have been perusing, very slowly and dippingly, William James's The Varieties of Religious Experience. Wonderful book, really - sceptical, but generously so. And reading about one religious type, I thought: that's fotherington-tomas!

Anyway, thanks again, all, for the generous reads.

Cheers

David

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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by brianedwards » Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:44 am

I hadn't noticed the pun David, possibly because (a) the word "sissy" is so familiar from the books and (2) it's a bit of stretch vowel-wise. To be honest, it's a bit lame in my opinions. Puns, by their nature, tend to be so...

Anyway, the issue is with the word complexion methinks. In this context, I took it at its first meaning, as a physical trait, which jars. I'm a fan of ambiguity, but I think something more direct fits here. Character perhaps?
David wrote: Just goes to show what I ought to remember, which is that I shouldn't make such lazy assumptions.
Ditto that.

B.

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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by David » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:31 pm

brianedwards wrote:I hadn't noticed the pun David, possibly because (a) the word "sissy" is so familiar from the books and (2) it's a bit of stretch vowel-wise. To be honest, it's a bit lame in my opinions. Puns, by their nature, tend to be so...
True. But I embrace the lame. And so does Basil.

If I was going to change that bit, whilst preserving the pun, I might go for

Everything about him
says a sissy


Cheers, Bri

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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by Ros » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:44 pm

Assissi? I hadn't noticed. It is a bit of a stretch and has taken me three days to work out.
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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by Ros » Fri Jul 03, 2015 4:51 pm

Assissi? I hadn't noticed. It is a bit of a stretch and has taken me three days to work out.
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Re: The theology of Basil Fotherington-Thomas

Post by brianedwards » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:39 pm

David wrote:
If I was going to change that bit, whilst preserving the pun, I might go for

Everything about him
says a sissy


Cheers, Bri

David
An improvement I think.

B.

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