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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Nicky B » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:07 am

I doubt it’s the crit thing - I think everyone here wants to learn, and crit-ing isn’t really what this comp is about.

I think the beginners is a much more transitory community, there just aren’t so many “regular posters”. It might be that the term “regular” is putting some off, for example, newer members like Maggie Moo, Johnny H. and Richard S.

Although saying that I guess we are missing a few of the regulars – Lake, Kev J, Nar, Gavin. Hmmm.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by brianedwards » Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:12 am

Anyone know any of those absentees on a more "personal" level? In other words, anyone willing to fire off a PM or email, round 'em up?

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Post by Vincent Turner » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:50 pm

aye, I'm in.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Suzanne » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:24 pm

How are the pairs getting linked up? And is there any sort of theme chosen? Or will it be up to the poets? Curious.

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Post by k-j » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:31 pm

Suzanne wrote:How are the pairs getting linked up?
Don't know yet - maybe random (i.e. use a random number generator) or maybe let the less experienced choose (i.e. pick teams).
Suzanne wrote:And is there any sort of theme chosen? Or will it be up to the poets?
I was thinking a theme might be useful (a) to give people some structure and (b) to allow for some comparisons between finished product. Any ideas?
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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Suzanne » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:40 pm

A love sonnet?

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Post by Suzanne » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:40 pm

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Lol. Just kidding.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Suzanne » Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:58 pm

But seriously.... Here's my pitch:

Recently, I read Happiness by Raymond Carver (for the Staying Alive review) and think each team picking an emotion as a title then support it in the poem would be interesting and challenging.

Write the poem to fit the one word emotion title.

http://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/i ... 2003/06/02


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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Nicky B » Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:42 pm

Sorry, don't really know those people anymore than anyone else. Brian or Ros - can't you PM as a mod and give them a gentle nudge? They possibly just don't want to do it.

Also, please don't make us pick! I think it would be better not random, but I really don't want to have to pick!

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Post by k-j » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:01 pm

Suzanne wrote:But seriously.... Here's my pitch:

Recently, I read Happiness by Raymond Carver (for the Staying Alive review) and think each team picking an emotion as a title then support it in the poem would be interesting and challenging.

Write the poem to fit the one word emotion title.

http://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/i ... 2003/06/02


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I'd prefer something a bit more concrete. So many of the emotions are heavy and negative, and those that aren't are really tough to write about. How about smells?
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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by k-j » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:04 pm

Nicky B wrote:Also, please don't make us pick! I think it would be better not random, but I really don't want to have to pick!
Fair enough, I can see how that might be awkward. How about this: each of the Exp comes up with a theme, these are posted anonymously as a list, and the Beginners (in ascending order of post-count) are allowed to pick the theme they prefer - after which they find out who they've chosen to collaborate with. What do you think?
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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Suzanne » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:16 pm

I thought happiness would be tough to do.

Smells, eh? Tell more.

I think all pairs should have to write the same message and see who does it best.
Winners for most creative, most musical, most clever... Etc.


I'll contact those guys.
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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Suzanne » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:27 pm

I say a random pairing with an escape clause if either would like to decline the assignment.

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Post by Travis » Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:29 pm

Or a Santa Claus, in case we want presents.
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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Nicky B » Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:34 pm

Thanks Suzanne - ooo, and don't forget Tess, and Ogg (Steve) and probably loads others.

I quite like the idea of the Ex putting up titles and the beginners picking from that. But then equally random would be fine I'm sure.

Not too fussed about the theme.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Suzanne » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:10 am

Let have the participating poets pair up with as many people as they would like or have time to write with.

How shall we pick the theme? Let's make it easy and undemocratic.

Let's let Brian pick the theme or three and let us choose, it was his idea.
Go ahead Brian, what's your fancy? or three?

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by David » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:18 am

I'll try pming Neil (Nar), anyway.

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Post by nar » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:22 pm

On holiday w/ limited mobile internet. Will check this out when I get home early nx week.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by k-j » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:14 am

Suzanne wrote:Let have the participating poets pair up with as many people as they would like or have time to write with.
I'd rather have just one by each pairing. Anyone can team up with anyone they like anytime, but I'd like to keep some structure to this exercise. I'd also like to arrange it so that who you end up with isn't entirely foreseeable.
Suzanne wrote:How shall we pick the theme? Let's make it easy and undemocratic.

Let's let Brian pick the theme or three and let us choose, it was his idea.
I'm okay with that, as long as the theme Brian picks is "balls".
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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Suzanne » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:02 am

Lol.




And good point about the pairings. Some structure and control is good in these things I agree.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by oggiesnr » Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:00 pm

I'm a beginner (and very occassional) but I'll join in.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by brianedwards » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:20 pm

I'm for the idea of strict pairs rather than posters pairing up with a number of different people and the whole thing losing its focus. One pair, one poem each.
Not sure I'd be interested in a pre-determined "theme" either, but I do like the idea of a sonnet crown. OK, OK, I can hear you groan already about the difficulty of writing a sonnet, or of what constitutes a "sonnet" these days anyway. So, how about this? For our purposes we define sonnet as "a poem of 14 lines". No rhyme or meter necessary, no couplet, no argument/resolution structure, no "turn" - just 14 lines.

Sonnet crown: a sequence of 7 sonnets in which the last line of each is repeated as the first line of the next, and the last line of the 7th repeats the first line of the 1st.

Example

I propose we begin like this: the Experienced poet in our pairings writes the first 14 line poem (remember: no rhymes and meter necessary, no turn, open theme) and the beginner writes the next using the last line of the first poem as their prompt. And so we progress, each writing 3 poems each. Pairs can then choose how they wish to work on the 7th and final poem.

The whole process should take about 3-4 weeks, and we could set a deadline for submissions, sometime mid-November? Of course, we're not expecting John Donne here, but for us to really get the most out of this, I think we should take it seriously and take some time over our collaborations.

Go ahead, file your objections below.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Ryan P. » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:19 am

brianedwards wrote:I'm for the idea of strict pairs rather than posters pairing up with a number of different people and the whole thing losing its focus. One pair, one poem each.
Not sure I'd be interested in a pre-determined "theme" either, but I do like the idea of a sonnet crown. OK, OK, I can hear you groan already about the difficulty of writing a sonnet, or of what constitutes a "sonnet" these days anyway. So, how about this? For our purposes we define sonnet as "a poem of 14 lines". No rhyme or meter necessary, no couplet, no argument/resolution structure, no "turn" - just 14 lines.

Sonnet crown: a sequence of 7 sonnets in which the last line of each is repeated as the first line of the next, and the last line of the 7th repeats the first line of the 1st.

Example

I propose we begin like this: the Experienced poet in our pairings writes the first 14 line poem (remember: no rhymes and meter necessary, no turn, open theme) and the beginner writes the next using the last line of the first poem as their prompt. And so we progress, each writing 3 poems each. Pairs can then choose how they wish to work on the 7th and final poem.

The whole process should take about 3-4 weeks, and we could set a deadline for submissions, sometime mid-November? Of course, we're not expecting John Donne here, but for us to really get the most out of this, I think we should take it seriously and take some time over our collaborations.

Go ahead, file your objections below.

B.
No objections from me. I think it sounds like a great idea. It'll be interesting to experience with new forms, I think.

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by calico » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:34 am

Sounds great to me!

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Re: Sign up here for a Duet!

Post by Suzanne » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:45 am

Great, ready.

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